Friday, in the Medieval-Reformation course I gave a lecture on Calvin’s doctrine of worship during which a student asked about instruments. I replied that Calvin (and most of the Reformed) would have viewed the introduction of instruments into the service the same way they would have viewed someone slitting the throat of a bull during a stated service. Let’s say that this response elicited considerable response. During the good-natured, free-wheeling give and take, I suggested that musical instruments are not mere circumstances in worship. I say that because I get the same response every time I suggest that we return to original Reformed practice, i.e. to worship God without the aid of musical instruments and without the aid of uninspired songs.
The only vaguely Reformed defense of instruments and uninspired songs is that they are only circumstances and not elements. The latter are essential to worship. They are usually said to include Word, sacrament, and prayer. Historically we’ve defined circumstances to refer to things truly indifferent such as time, place, and posture. A circumstance is supposed to be something that is genuinely indifferent, i.e. something that neither adds to worship nor, if omitted, takes away from worship.
When I say, “If they’re only circumstances, let’s get rid of them” I get a reaction that suggests that they aren’t really adiaphora (indifferent) or circumstances at all. “You can’t smash that organ. Why Mr So and So donated money for that organ back in 1870.” Or “We can’t stop singing that hymn, after all, that’s my favorite hymn.” Or even more to the point, as one student said years ago, “When I hear the organ, I feel the presence of God.”
When we hear objections like these we can see that it’s quite unclear whether musical instruments function as mere circumstances. When I propose to change the time of worship no one says, “But 11AM means so much to me.” When I say, “Let us stand,” no one says, “But when I sit, I feel God’s presence.” If folk do become so attached to a time or a posture or a place, well, then it’s probably time for a change. Worship isn’t about time, place, or posture, it’s about being met by the living God.
People react to the mere suggestion of the removal of instruments as they do because instruments and music are affective. Worship has become so identified with the affect produced by the instruments (or our favorite scripture song) that to take them away seems almost blasphemous. We love our instruments in a way we don’t love posture, place, or time. There is a categorical difference between instruments and P, P and T. If we can’t change them or if they have become sacred, well, maybe they have become idols?
There’s a second problem with instruments that is even more fundamental than our experience and that is those instruments that folk love so much come with some pretty heavy baggage. The only biblical ground for instruments also entails the sacrifice of animals. In other words, how are we going to use Moses’ or David’s instruments without killing Aaron’s lambs or engaging in holy war? The same instruments we want to borrow from Moses come covered with the blood of bulls and goats and resonating with the sounds of holy war against your local canaanite city. The old Reformed churches understood that the Mosaic covenant was totalitarian. It’s pretty hard to borrow just a little bit of Moses. Just ask the medieval church. How are we going to do what the medieval church did, borrow Mosaic elements (and for the same reasons) without gradually reproducing the Mosaic worship system just as the medieval church did?
Maybe the Reformed in the 16th and 17th centuries knew what they were doing when they rid our worship of instruments and of uninspired songs?

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May 3, 2008 at 5:14 pm
J.R. Polk
Amen. I couldn’t agree more. The only problem is that churches willing to forsake what’s popular for what’s Biblical are few and far between. I’ve yet to find one in Philadelphia or the surrounding area.
Great post.
May 3, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Bryan Peters
If you’re particularly speaking of Reformed churches that hold to a similar view of the Regulative principle, try the two RPCNA congregations in Philly:
http://www.phillyrpc.org/
As with all RPCNA congregations, both exclusively sing Psalms acappella. My wife and I have visited both. It’s very encouraging to hear some of the children singing Psalms at the top of their lungs.
Dr. Clark, you’ve delivered a challenging post once again. I can’t say that I’m completely convinced yet, but you have me thinking. If someone is going to argue that instruments are a circumstance, such sentimental arguments simply won’t pass muster for keeping them. However, I have a few questions:
What about the argument that many people simply need instrumental accompaniment to follow the music? Would instrumental accompaniment be permissible even for a short period of time to aid an untrained congregation in their singing? What is the crucial difference between one note on pitch pipe and several on a piano?
As I recall, not everyone seems to share your view of the Continental tradition and instruments. Acappella singing doesn’t seem to be particularly in vogue among the Dutch Reformed these days. Could you point me towards some reading supporting your perspective on Calvin and most of the Reformed’s attitude towards?
Again, thanks for the challenging material and keep it coming!
May 3, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Matthew
Amen, Dr. Clark,
I am encouraged to see this view espoused from a Dutch Reformed perspective. I belong to the OPC, which doesn’t, corporately, share this view on the regulative principle. I do, however.
I would like to second Bryan’s questions, however. I am not aware this view was popular among the Continental Reformed, and seems to be a majority Scottish Presbyterian view.
I have also often heard of the pitch pipe used constituting the same as an instrument (often against adherents of the Church of Christ)
May 3, 2008 at 6:45 pm
R. Scott Clark
Hi All,
The view I’m trying to articulate, and which I explain at more length in Recovering the Reformed Confession (coming in Nov, 08, Dv), was the historic view held by the Reformed churches in Europe and England in the 16th and 17th centuries. The Dutch churches were acapella psalm-singing churches until the modern period.
As to whether they are needed, I’m tempted to say that Jeroboam thought that the calves at Bethel and Dan were needed, but I won’t say it. I’ve been in congregations that didn’t have instruments, not even pitch pipes. Would it be a struggle? Sure. Would it take adaptation? Sure. Will it take a long time? Absolutely.
We’re using instruments now. If we can gradually abandon them, I can live with that.
May 3, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Matthew
Great Dr,
I’ll be looking forward to that book, too!
Now if only I could get you in touch with my OPC pastor and get this idea into his head, it’ll save me the time of constantly debating it with him!
May 3, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Bryan Peters
Very interesting. So would you say the only viable argument for instruments as circumstances would have to see their elimination as the ultimate goal? Does this also mean that many RPCNA congregations should aspire to eliminate pitch pipes?
Looking forward with eager anticipation to the upcoming book.
May 3, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Christopher
Thornwell has a nice definition of circumstances in his essay: Church Boards and Presbyterianism:
“Circumstances are those concomitants of an action without which it either cannot be done at all, or cannot be done with decency and decorum.”
If this is right, then this would mean that there may be situations where instruments are necessary (in the sense Thornwell means) and others where they are not. This also would allow the possibility of gradually abandoning instruments as they become less needed without giving up on the RPW.
May 4, 2008 at 2:08 am
rjs1
Great post!!
May 4, 2008 at 5:15 am
Chris Coldwell
Excellent; very quotable!
May 4, 2008 at 5:27 am
Chris Coldwell
But Thornwell disagreed instrumentation in worship was a circumstance, as did may of his contemporary Southern Presbyterians–Dabney, Girardeau, Peck, Adger, etc. For these Southern Presbyterians’ take on this see for instance,
John L. Girardeau, The Discretionary Power of the Church
http://www.naphtali.com/articles/worship/girardeau-discretionary-power/
John B. Adger, A Denial Of Divine Right For Organs In Public Worship
http://www.thebluebanner.com/
See the third link, Volume 12 Issue 3. July-September 2003.
Or a direct link to the PDF:
http://www.thebluebanner.com/pdf/bluebanner12-3.pdf
May 4, 2008 at 6:24 am
Jay
Out of curiosity, do we oust something like the Apostles Creed or the Gloria Patri simply b/c we’re never specifically commanded to use them?
May 4, 2008 at 6:28 am
J.R. Polk
Bryan,
Thanks for the link.
May 4, 2008 at 7:04 am
Bruce S.
Please remind me again of the RPW’s basis for singing at all in a worship service. Thank you.
May 4, 2008 at 7:32 am
R. Scott Clark
Hi Jay,
FWIW, Calvin’s congregation sang the AC — I think they did it because he viewed it practically as quasi-inspired. That practice was not universal. It doesn’t appear in the Directory for Public Worship.
I don’t repeat the Creed during the service. I believe it and Scripture repeatedly instructs us by example and command to confess the faith but not with uninspired words.
I don’t have any problem with the pastor reciting the creed as an exposition of the Scriptures. That belongs to his office. Part of the problem is that we’ve confused the office of the congregation with the office of the minister.
There’s no need for the gloria, which is a wonderful song, when we have biblical doxologies.
May 4, 2008 at 7:37 am
R. Scott Clark
Hi Bruce,
Well we have example (e.g. Ex 15:1; 1 Chr 16:9) and precept in the typological revelation and in the NT (1 Cor 14:15; Heb 2:10).
It is certain that the NT church sang when they gathered for worship and the there is abundant evidence that the post-apostolic church did so.
We have no evidence that that the apostolic church used instruments and we know that the earliest sub- and post-apostolic churches did not use them.
May 4, 2008 at 8:32 am
sacramentalpiety
So a more practical question…
I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said. Confessional integrity, Biblical fidelity, and a consistent regulativism demands exclusive psalmody. Practically, however, what are we to do when most of our churches do not embrace this kind of consistent regulativism? Would you regard it as sinful to sing un-inspired hymns which make use of accompanied musical pieces, when you’ve embraced exclusive Psalmody? Should we leave our churches, refuse to sing, etc. etc. etc.? I know these are highly personal questions which we all must answer for ourselves. Nevertheless, maybe some kind of practical advice would be helpful seeing that continental/historic Presbyterian worship is non-existent in todays Reformed world.
May 4, 2008 at 8:48 am
Jamie Duguid
Isn’t there a difference between saying that it might be wise to reduce our dependence on instruments (because wisdom should govern our use of circumstances) if they become an idolatry, and absolutely forbidding them for all new covenant believers in all times and places? I would agree with the first statement, and think that acappella singing would be a great discipline in many instances. However, I would be loth to utterly forbid a circumstance of worship used by Old Testament saints unless it could be clearly shown that it is fulfilled/changed with Christ’s coming. Congregational singing (with instruments) is introduced under Moses, in response to God’s deliverance. It is associated with tabernacle/temple worship under David. Passover is instituted under Moses, and we celebrate its new covenant homologue every week (or should). It seems that Passover and congregational singing are as closely tied to Mosaic religion as instruments. As far as I can tell, instruments are never separated from congregational singing at the gathering together of the people in the Old Testament. So it seems that the relative silence of the New Testament about instruments (harps in Rev. is all that comes to mind) is an argument for their use (as it is for infant baptism). It is not like the New Testament never uses the temple as a pattern for the church and its worship (1 Peter 2, for example).
May 4, 2008 at 9:46 am
Benjamin P. Glaser
A couple of books dealing with the Instrument question that I can recommend highly is a newer work by a Reformed Baptist by the name of John Price called, “Old Light on New Worship” and John Girardeau’s masterpiece “Instrumental Music in the Public Worship of the Church”.
For Price:
http://www.crownandcovenant.com/product_p/ds214.htm
For Girardeau:
http://www.crownandcovenant.com/
Instrumental_Music_in_the_Public_Worship_of_the_Ch_p/ds212.htm
May 4, 2008 at 10:07 am
rjs1
sacramentalpiety,
I hope he has changed his mind on this, however I don’t think that R. Scott Clark is an exclusive psalmist but is an ‘inspired song onlyist’.
Anyway; you ask, Would you regard it as sinful to sing un-inspired hymns which make use of accompanied musical pieces, when you’ve embraced exclusive Psalmody?
My answer is as follows; Where I live there is no Reformed or Presbyterian church so I attend an evangelical Anglican church. Next week our NEW evening service is going to be unleashed. I was happy to find out that a new format for the service was planned but I was unhappy when I found out the content…what the new service now includes is a choir and even more musical instruments!!
As a committed EPer and acapella I shall not be attending. I attend the 8am Holy Communion service which is Book of Common Prayer which has no singing. If that did not exist I would attend the 10am but I would not sing anything other than psalms.
May 4, 2008 at 1:21 pm
PRCalDude
RSC,
What did you think of Lee Irons’ thoughts on exclusive psalmody?
May 4, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Chris Coleman
Dr. Clark, some WSC friends were talking…
What is the Exegetical/Historical evidence that the congregation (non-office bearers) can only respond in worship with inspired words?
Just curious.
Another thought, were Peter’s words (Acts 3) inspired when he first preached them (as an office bearer) or were they only inspired when Luke recorded them? Could this be used as evidence of an office-bearer speaking uninspired words?
Thanks.
May 4, 2008 at 8:07 pm
R. Scott Clark
SP,
This is a difficult issue. I don’t have any brilliant insights. I guess it will take a very long time for there to be a reformation of the worship of the churches. This means that, unless there is an RP congregation or some other that observes the RPW closely, those who hold the RPW closely will have to worship in congregations that don’t observe it closely.
I try to enter into worship as best I can. When the congregation sings an uninspired text I try to find an inspired text set to the same tune or in the same meter and to sing along quietly. BTW, I’m amazed how often even a randomly-chosen psalm (or other Scripture text) is more appropriate to corporate worship than the uninspired song being sung around me.
I do think it’s better to worship in a mixed setting than not to worship. I try to hold my principles without becoming legalistic or arrogant or a general pain in the neck.
Patience is the key. I really don’t think that most Reformed folk have ever been confronted by the RPW or have ever thought about it.
PRC,
I’m not an exclusive psalmodist. I’m not convinced by the EP arguments, but I don’t see any ground for requiring a congregation to sing or recite uninspired texts.
Chris,
So that’s the way it is eh? Ganging up against the old prof?
I assume that Peter’s sermon was inspired. I don’t assume that every inspired word was recorded. What we have, of course, is Luke’s inspired synopsis of Peter’s sermon.
The historical Reformed pattern is that the minister speaks the Word of God (by reading, sermon, and prayer) and the congregation respond with the Word of God. Read the historic Reformed liturgies. The sorts of congregational responses that have become common place in modern times don’t conform to older Reformed practice. I’ve no problem asking the congregation to sing or recite God’s Word but I can’t see how the consistory is authorized to require members to speak to God anything but his Word.
What sort of exegetical evidence will the committee accept?
Hi Jamie,
The problem with your argument is that what we do with the Abrahamic promises is one thing and what we do with Moses is another. The Old Covenant was the Mosaic covenant and the Mosaic covenant, as a distinct epoch in redemptive history, is fulfilled. The history of trying to preserve elements of Mosaic worship is not promising.
The NT appeals to the temple metaphorically, never literally, as a pattern for the church and never as a pattern for public services.
Actually, we know a little bit about early Christian worship. We also know about the synagogues and the close connection between the early church and the Synagogue. Like it or not, the synagogue set the pattern for early Christian worship.
May 4, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Chris Coleman
Not really ganging up, more like a…think tank, if you will. I’m not sure what the committee will accept…
It seems that the “committee” wanted to know where the scripture requires that non-office bearers respond only with inspired words.
May 5, 2008 at 12:07 am
rjs1
PRCalDude,
You asked about Lee Irons’ thoughts on exclusive psalmody. I would be happy to put forward an EP rebuttal but I do not wish to hijack these comments. Let me know if you would be interested and I could post it in your blog.
God bless,
Richard
May 5, 2008 at 5:51 am
R. Scott Clark
Hi Chris,
Well, it’s a deduction drawn from the history of redemption, when the canon is being formed. Obviously, God’s people sang songs before the psalter was formed, as in the case of Moses and Miriam. I take it that they were, however, moved by the Spirit. This is how Calvin interpreted David’s dancing before the ark.
We also know, however, what God’s people sang in corporate worship in the NT was psalms and we don’t have any idea that they sang anything that was uninspired. The question the church has asked implicitly since the close of the canonical period seems to be: where are we licensed to sing anything uninspired?
The early Christian practice was to sing inspired texts. When we’ve been given divinely inspired texts for singing why would we want to improvise? Is divine worship any place for jazz, as it were?
We need to be more critical of our self-indulgent, democratic, egalitarian age. We assume that God is interested in our self-expression. Why do we think that?
May 5, 2008 at 6:46 am
Jamie Duguid
Well, it might be that we won’t be able to agree because we have a different view of exactly how to relate to the Mosaic covenant. But my argument is just that instruments cannot be held guilty by association, since congregational singing is associated with the exact same things. So if we keep congregational singing, don’t we tacitly admit that at least one element of Mosaic worship is appropriate for new covenant believers?
I am also a bit wary about drawing my worship practices from the synagogue. Doesn’t the RPW mean that we should make our case from Scripture? There seems to be a lack of data in the NT on this issue. My instinct is to think the solution lies in careful interpretation of the OT in light of Christ, rather than appeal to the synagogue.
May 5, 2008 at 6:51 am
R. Scott Clark
Hi Jamie,
This is a good argument, but still fails, I think, on this point:
It’s not the case congregational singing is purely Mosaic. It is not associated with the “old” and “fading” and “obsolete” covenant the way instruments are.
Further, we know that the NT church sang psalms (and probably other inspired songs) and we have no evidence that the NT church used any musical instruments.
We must be very careful about using the Mosiac and temple cultus as a pattern for Christian worship. The medieval church did that and we had to have a Reformation to get rid of the results.
May 5, 2008 at 7:35 am
Jamie Duguid
I am still unclear as to where instruments are associated with and old and obsolete covenant. Certainly not in Revelation, where they are associated with true heavenly worship and our future hope. The lack of evidence from the NT does not sway me any more on this issue then on baptism. I understand that you allow the Baptism argument as proceeding from the Abrahamic covenant, but do not allow similar arguments from the Mosaic, I am merely making a statement about the internal consistency of my argument.
I agree that the temple cultus has been misused. Indeed, lets be careful. But this is the crucial point I don’t follow: If a priest said to me, “Why not say we are resacrificing Christ in the Mass?” I would not say “Sacrifice is Mosaic” but rather “Sacrifice is fulfilled in Christ, and no longer appropriate for new covenant worship” and I would point to Hebrews. I do not know of any such text to make that connection with musical instruments.
May 5, 2008 at 8:11 am
rjs1
Just some quotes from Reformed worthies!
John Calvin writing on Psalm 33:
“There is a distinction, however, to be observed here, that we may not indiscriminately consider as applicable to ourselves, every thing which was formerly enjoined upon the Jews. I have no doubt that playing upon cymbals, touching the harp and the viol, and all that kind of music, which is so frequently mentioned in the Psalms, was a part of the education; that is to say, the puerile instruction of the law: I speak of the stated service of the temple. For even now, if believers choose to cheer themselves with musical instruments, they should, I think, make it their object not to dissever their cheerfulness from the praises of God. But when they frequent their sacred assemblies, musical instruments in celebrating the praises of God would be no more suitable than the burning of incense, the lighting up of lamps, and the restoration of the other shadows of the law.”
David Dickson on the inscription of Psalm 4
From the inscription of this Psalm, which is the first wherein mention is made of the chief musicians, or musical instruments: learn 1. The praise of God and the joy of his Spirit, allowed on his people, surpass all expression which the voice of words can make; for this was signified by the plurality, and diversity of musical instruments (some of them sounding by being beaten, some of them by being blown,) superadded to the voice of singing in the prædagogy of Moses. 2. Albeit the ceremonial, figurative, and religious use of musical instruments be gone, with the rest of the Levitical shadows, (the natural use of them still remaining
yet the vocal singing of Psalms in the church is not taken away, as the practice and doctrine of Christ and his apostles make evident; and so the voice of a musician in the public worship still is useful. 3. The Psalms are to be made use of with discretion, as the matter of the Psalm, and edification of the worshippers may require. And in the public, it is the called minister of the congregation’s place, to order this part of the worship with the rest; for this, the direction of the Psalms to the chief musician giveth ground.
David Dickson on Psalm 150:3-5
Here are other six exhortations, teaching the manner of praising God under the shadow of typical music, appointed in the ceremonial law. Whence learn,
1. Albeit the typical ceremonies of musical instruments in God’s public worship, belonging to the pedagogy of the church, in her minority before Christ, be now abolished with the rest of the ceremonies; yet the moral duties shadowed forth by them, are still to be studied, because this duty of praising God, and praising him with all our mind, strength, and soul, is moral, whereunto we are perpetually obliged.
2. The variety of musical instruments, some of them made use of in the camp, as trumpets; some of them sounding by lighter touching of them, as stringed instruments; some of them by beating on them more sharply, as tabrets, drums, and cymbals; some of them sounding by touching and blowing also, as organs: all of them giving some certain sound, some more quiet, and some making more noise: some of them having a harmony by themselves; some of them making a concert with other instruments, or with the motions of the body in dancing; some of them serving for one use, some of them serving for another, and all of them serving to set forth God’s glory, and to shadow forth the duty of worshippers, and the privileges of the saints; - the plurality and variety, I say, of these instruments, were fit to represent divers conditions of the spiritual man, and of the greatness of his joy to be found in God, and to teach what stirring up should be of the affections and powers of our soul, and one of another, unto God’s worship; what harmony should be among the worshippers of God, what melody each should make in himself, singing to God with grace in his heart, and to show the excellence of God’s praise, which no means nor instrument, nor any expression of the body joined thereunto, could sufficiently set forth: and thus much is figured forth in these exhortations to praise God with trumpet, psaltery, harp, timbrel, stringed instruments, and organs, loud and high sounding cymbals.
May 5, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Eliza
Great post. Let all the people say, Amen.
May 5, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Steven Dresen
You know if you were consistent with your hermeneutic you couldn’t teach at a seminary because seminaries are extrabiblical institutions , as are presbyteries, and denominations. If you wish to follow a rigid stance of the regulative principle do be consistent with it and rid yourself of all these things which would not fall in lie with your principle.
May 5, 2008 at 4:32 pm
R. Scott Clark
Steven,
A seminary isn’t a stated worship service.
If I may, this is the thing I notice with critics of the RPW. They rarely understand it and they rarely understand it’s intent and historic application.
The RPW was intended to apply to stated worship services. Full stop.
May 5, 2008 at 5:27 pm
J.R. Polk
Steven,
As Dr. Clark has already mentioned, you misunderstand the RPW. For example, here is a definintion of the RPW from the Westminster Confession:
Please notice that this pertains to worship and has nothing to do with seminaries, presbyteries or denominations.
May 5, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Steven Dresen
I understand it’s limited scope, but in it’s limited scope of only making it regulative for worship in contrast to other aspects of church it is being applied in an inconsistent manner. Might I humbly submit that the use of instruments maybe ordered according to the light of nature under the guidance of Scripture which would be in keeping with WCF 1:VI:
VI. The whole counsel of God concerning all things necessary for His own glory, man’s salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down in Scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from Scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit, or traditions of men.Nevertheless, we acknowledge the inward illumination of the Spirit of God to be necessary for the saving understanding of such things as are revealed in the Word: and that there are some circumstances concerning the worship of God, and government of the Church, common to human actions and societies, which are to be ordered by the light of nature, and Christian prudence, according to the general rules of the Word, which are always to be observed.
May 5, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Steven Dresen
J.R. Polk the WCF confesses that the whole counsel of God is revealed in the Bible concerning all things needed for life and faith. If seminaries, presbyteries, and denominations are necessary for the church why are they not revealed in Scripture. If they are not necessary then would it not be best to conform your practice to the biblical standard and get rid of them?
May 5, 2008 at 6:10 pm
J.R. Polk
The training of future leaders is not revealed in Scripture? The study and learning of God’s word is not revealed in Scripture? The meeting together of believers to conduct the affairs of the Church is not revealed in Scripture? Doesn’t the section of the WCF that you quote mention that not only are things that pertain to life and faith, etc., expressly set down in Scripture but that they may also by good and necessary consequence be deduced from Scripture?
May 5, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Chris Coldwell
At the link, a longish covering of what is the RPW is given in an extract from a series on sixty years of RPW literature that ran in the 2006 and 2007 issues of The Confessional Presbyterian journal.
http://www.puritanboard.com/blogs/naphtalipress/25-what-regulative-principle-worship.html
May 6, 2008 at 6:24 am
R. Scott Clark
Jamie,
It’s true that instruments were created before the Mosaic-Davidic epochs (Gen 4:21), and in the pre-Mosaic period they are not described as having religious significance but in redemptive history they are closely associated with the “old covenant” (as defined in 2 Cor 3 and Heb 7-10) or temple cultus. I’m thinking of places such as Ps 33:2. I think if you do a word search for words such as lyre, timbrel, harp, tambourine, you will see that they take on religious significance in old covenant worship.
As to silence in the NT, there’s a little more than that. We’re there instruments in the upper room when Jesus instituted the Supper? We have good reason to believe that, when Peter said “the promise is to you and to your children” he’s referring to infant initiation. We have good reason to believe that at least some of the households in Acts included infants. We have no such positive data or implications for instruments. I don’t know of anyone who thinks that the NT church worshipped using instruments.
There’s no question that there were no instruments in early sub-apostolic and post-apostolic worship. The letter of Pliny the Younger (c. 110) makes no reference to instruments. Yes, he mentions “hymns” but what else would a pagan make of Christian songs to Christ? He interpreted them via Roman categories. The early Christians all rejected instruments as typological (Jewish) and pagan. That fact must be given due weight when assessing 1st century (apostolic) practice. The setting wasn’t so radically different. The early fathers had no information that the apostles used instruments. Indeed, they understood the opposite to be true. Instruments only came back with the resuscitation of the priesthood in the medieval church and even then they were controversial.
Your argument from the Revelation is used frequently. Here’s my response: Do you really want to employ this hermeneutic? The Rev. is the most symbolic book in the entire NT. It employs imagery from the Mosaic and Davidic (and later) epochs in redemptive history to illustrate New Covenant and eschatological realities. We’re not to think that Jesus is sitting on an actual throne–under which there are “souls”–any more than we are to think that there are literal instruments or that literal blood will rise to a literal bridle etc.
Second, those images are not given as norms for new covenant worship or life. They are given to create impressions of heavenly realities and to paint a picture of inter-adventual life under the cross for the people of Christ as they wait for their Redeemer to return.
I dont’ agree that there is a proper or safe way to use or employ the temple cultus in the New Covenant except, as the NT does, as a figure or metaphor for the church. We are the temple (1 Pet 4:14). We’re never called to worship as the temple did. The hermeneutic you’re suggesting is the very same hermeneutic used by the medieval church to justify the resuscitation of the priesthood and sacerdotal ministry.
This line of argumentation is one of the major reasons why the Reformed in the 16th and 17th centuries abandoned all the Mosaic/temple/theocratic elements in worship reintroduced by the Roman and medieval church. They understood the totalitarian nature of the Mosaic epoch. They understood that it’s hard to have a little of the temple cultus in worship without having a lot of it.
You are right that the sacrifices were fulfilled in Christ. So were the instruments. If you’re arguing that because Hebrews doesn’t mention any instruments specifically aren’t you ignoring the the synecdoche at work in Hebrews? Your implied argument strikes me a special pleading. The intent and function of the whole argument is to sweep (e.g. Heb 7:11-14) the entire OT cultus and you hope to rescue instruments because they aren’t mentioned specifically? Really? The whole spirit of Hebrews is to point Jewish Christians away from Moses and toward Christ and the New Covenant. Wouldn’t they have been justifiably confused if the pastor to the Hebrews said, “Yes it’s all fulfilled in Christ, except the instruments. Now, let’s follow along as the musicians….”
The Roman priest would say, “We don’t have literal sacrifices. We have memorial sacrifices. You want to borrow from the temple cultus by way of instruments and we want to borrow from it by way of memorial sacrifices. What’s the difference?”
Indeed, the Roman priest has a point. His borrowing is at least somewhat figurative. Musical instruments aren’t figurative, they’re literal.
May 6, 2008 at 6:43 am
rjs1
Regarding Revelation 5: In Worshipping with the Elders (in Heaven) Derek Thomas makes the important point that “Drawing too many conclusions from descriptive passages is hermeneutically perilous. Revelation 5 is descriptive of heavenly worship and not necessarily prescriptive of worship here on earth.”
May 6, 2008 at 7:47 am
Steven Carr
Dr. Clark,
I found your article very encouraging. It seems like this position is the minority position, so it is good to find others, especially those of your calibre, who promote it.
Back around the turn of the century (the 20th that is) there were two Psalm-singers conferences. One in Chicago, I believe, and the other in Belfast. The papers from both conferences are now in book form. I wonder if that sort of thing would be possible/profitable today? What are your thoughts?
May 6, 2008 at 8:55 am
R. Scott Clark
Yes, I’m familiar with that material. Some of it could be useful. It would have to re-printed selectively. I don’t think that reprinting works will do the job, however. It only re-enforces the notion that the RPW is antiquated. We need to be re-stating and re-arguing the RPW in our time, in our own context.
May 6, 2008 at 9:31 am
Steven Carr
I should have been more clear. I am not asking about republishing the books, I was asking about holding psalm-singing conferences today. I think though that you partially answered my question in stating that we need to re-argue the RPW in out time.
Would you speak at such a conference?
May 6, 2008 at 9:57 am
dvopilgrim
Thanks for a great post. I added some experiences in the Philippines as well as some church history in reference to your post:
http://twoagespilgrims.com/doctrine/
May 6, 2008 at 10:06 am
pduggie
“Here’s my response: Do you really want to employ this hermeneutic? ”
Yes, yes I do.
May 6, 2008 at 10:08 am
pduggie
Also, the argument from Revelation is intended to demonstrate that your claim “The only biblical ground for instruments also entails the sacrifice of animals. ” is false.
Which it does.
May 6, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Matt Fray
Dr. Clark,
As always, thought-provoking comments…
I don’t suppose that you haven’t thought about this, but how can you sing Psalm 33, 81, 144, or 150 that explicitly prescribe the use of instruments in worship? After conducting a brief word study, it seems over 13% of the Psalter (at least 20 of the 150) either implicitly or explicitly calls for the use of instruments. Assuming for a moment that Psalms’ inclusion of instruments doesn’t necessarily make them normative for us today, how can we (in good conscience) sing Psalms that do implore us to use instruments? Do we momentarily suspend our agreement with the Psalter as we worship? I suppose the reason is similar to how we can sing Psalms that speak of bloody animal sacrifice (5, 66, 118, 141)?
Any thoughts?
May 6, 2008 at 4:35 pm
R. Scott Clark
Hi Matt,
This was the question I put to Bob Godfrey back in 1990 that got me headed down this road. I complained that he wants us to sing psalms but he won’t let us do what they command. He replied that, on that hermeneutic, we should have to start slaughtering bulls and goats. He was exactly right.
We do the same thing with those psalms that we do with the imprecatory psalms. We read them through a Christological grid and we understand that Christ is the Israel of God, he is the faithful one. He has undergone the the holy war for us. He has prosecuted and been the recipient of it.
We invoke imprecations not against our earthly neighbors, with whom we are no longer at war, but against sin, the flesh, and the devil. The war is with ourselves.
So, with the instruments, we understand them to be typological pictures/illustrations of the New Covenant inauguration of the age to come and of the consummation of the age to come. This is how they function in the Revelation– they don’t function as patterns of New Covenant worship. The Apostle John is not a Judaizer. He’s not contradicting Hebrews and taking us back to the earthly temple. Jesus is our Temple and, by union with Chirst, we ARE the temple, just as we are the circumcision (per Philippians).
In short, they become figures and metaphors. We treat them the way we treat the blood of bulls and goats and the Mosaic-Davidic (etc) civil laws. We glean the general equity (the spiritual teaching) from them, but we don’t re-institute instruments any more than we re-institute animal sacrifices, holy war, or the civil law.
May 6, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Austin Britton
Dr. Clark-
Good discussion here, thanks for all the time you have spent answering questions.
I always get hung-up on the instruments issue. Even if one is a canonical songs-onlyist, How do we go about composing tunes to the canonical words? It is obvious the Bible does not give us any guidelines about the tunes, yet tunes are very affective and very circumstantial (bound to change) and instruments are used to compose these tunes that we sing. I just have trouble seeing how the Bible prescribes the style of acappella as the normative style that canonical words must be sung in? I just think that instruments aid in the singing of canonical songs with regards to pitch and tempo.
May 6, 2008 at 5:19 pm
dvopilgrim
Matt, I tried to answer a similar question about Psalm 150, 149, etc., posed by a commenter in my blog: http://www.twoagespilgrims.com/doctrine .
May 6, 2008 at 6:27 pm
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May 6, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Matt Fray
Thanks for quick reply and clear explanation.
As long as this conversation is continuing, I have two more brief questions:
1. Has anyone ever suggested that musical instruments are a common grace feature, not simply a feature limited to the Mosaic institution? How would you respond to this suggestion?
2. As the RPW applies to how we worship in “stated services,” I assume that you wouldn’t have a problem with using instruments (or singing non-inspired songs) for worship outside of stated services (family worship, chapel services, etc.). Is this correct?
Thanks,
Matt
May 6, 2008 at 8:01 pm
R. Scott Clark
Hi Austin,
This is a good question.
1. The fact that something is affective doesn’t make it wrong or right. My point about the affective quality of instrumental music is that it has made it more difficult for us to be self-critical since we define worship as an intense affective experience. I make this observation to explain how, even though they are often defended as mere circumstances and as adiaphora, when it comes to treating them as adiaphora, we find out that they aren’t really. I don’t think we’re being completely honest about instruments. If they were mere circumstances, mere adiaphora, then we could be rid of them with nothing added or lost to the service. Clearly most proponents of instruments don’t regard them that way.
2. I agree that there are no clear biblical guidelines regarding tunes. I don’t know whether anyone knows anything about what sorts of tunes were used in the Apostolic period. We do have some information about the sorts of tunes used by the early medieval church. We reasonably believe that the apostolic church sang psalms (and other inspired songs) to familiar tunes.
3. As to the utility of instruments, I’ve seen them help and I’ve seen them hurt congregational singing. Frankly, “good” congregational singing is a subjective judgment. I think we care about it a lot more than Christ does. We might be shocked by what passed for singing in the early church. Trying to meet a cultural standard (which i’ve seen shift in my own life) as to what is “good” singing is not a sufficient reason to employ instruments if they haven’t been commanded.
4. We know that the Apostolic church sang. We know that Jesus and the disciples sang psalms at the institution of the Lord’s Supper and they did it acapella. I take it from those examples that the tunes are not bound to the temple cultus. I don’t know that instruments are essential to composing acapella tunes. I think that’s a supposition.
5. From the pov of the RPW, acapella singing is not a “style” any more than worshipping without the blood of bulls and goats. This discussion isn’t about preferences or styles. It’s about doing that and only that in worship required by God. The question is whether instruments are so associated with the temple cultus (as the blood of bulls and goats is associated with the temple cultus) so as to have been fulfilled by Christ.
May 6, 2008 at 8:05 pm
R. Scott Clark
Hi Matt,
That’s right. I don’t think the RPW is intended to govern anything but stated services.
I agree that instruments are probably rightly assigned to common grace, but there is a sort of universality (not to say “common grace” exactly; but to say that they are a sort of natural phenomena) to animal sacrifice and holy war too. That doesn’t mean that we are free to employ them in the service of God in the new covenant.
In general, the fact that something is creational or natural does not necessarily commend it for use in divine worship.
May 6, 2008 at 8:30 pm
dvopilgrim
Using instruments or singing non-inspired songs for worship outside of stated services such as family worship, chapel services, youth fellowship, Christmas programs, etc. will surely have a way of degenerating into the kind of irreverent and disorderly evangelical worship we have today.
Isn’t this how today’s Lord’s Day worship deformed? Start with one or two contemporary songs, add a keyboard or guitar, and soon you have a whole band entertaining the people of God. Man… a factory of idols.
May 6, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Jamie Duguid
Of course in the (very) early church, you have the confusion of the temple still existing. I have heard it questioned whether there was any congregational singing in the synagogue before 70 AD (do you know of any examples?). It is interesting that singing isn’t even mentioned in Acts 2. But if instruments are a circumstance, I can see why wisdom would dictate that they not be used in a culture where they are totally associated with pagan worship. So the question is really whether instruments are not used because of the new covenant nature of the worship, or the cultural context.
Part of the difficulty of interpreting the meaning of instruments in Revelation is that they do not have an obvious anti-type. The anti-type for sacrifice or incense, for example, is obvious from Scripture. So I would tell the Roman Catholic that we have the reality, so don’t go back to the shadows. But to make this argument for instruments, it is important that I can point to type and anti-type. Also for our understanding of their usage in Revelation, we need to know why John added them in there.
May 7, 2008 at 12:47 am
Richard
Jamie,
Just some brief comments.
(1) The antitype of instruments is, in general, praise as noted by Gill writing that “they were typical of the spiritual melody made in the hearts of God’s people”. The trumpets were blown over the burnt offering. This pictured the preaching of the gospel of Christ’s death. According to John Gill the trumpet “was typical of the Gospel, which gives a certain and joyful sound, and is the cause and means of praising God (Isa 27:13)”.
(2) A good question regarding psalm singing in the synagogue. Synagogues were established in Leviticus 23 whilst psalmody came very much later so I do not think that singing was an element of worship in the synagogue. However we can be sure that the Jews sang psalms outside of the Temple (Ps. 137).
Some more quotes, this time from the early church:
Chrysostom writes: “David formerly sang songs, also today we sing hymns. He had a lyre with lifeless strings, the church has a lyre with living strings. Our tongues are the strings of the lyre with a different tone indeed but much more in accordance with piety. Here there is no need for the cithara, or for stretched strings, or for the plectrum, or for art, or for any instrument; but, if you like, you may yourself become a cithara, mortifying the members of the flesh and making a full harmony of mind and body. For when the flesh no longer lusts against the Spirit, but has submitted to its orders and has been led at length into the best and most admirable path, then will you create a spiritual melody.”
Clement of Alexandria: “Leave the pipe to the shepherd, the flute to the men who are in fear of gods and intent on their idol worshipping. Such musical instruments must be excluded from our wingless feasts, for they arc more suited for beasts and for the class of men that is least capable of reason than for men. The Spirit, to purify the divine liturgy from any such unrestrained revelry chants: ‘Praise Him with sound of trumpet,” for, in fact, at the sound of the trumpet the dead will rise again; praise Him with harp,’ for the tongue is a harp of the Lord; ‘and with the lute. praise Him.’ understanding the mouth as a lute moved by the Spirit as the lute is by the plectrum; ‘praise Him with timbal and choir,’ that is, the Church awaiting the resurrection of the body in the flesh which is its echo; ‘praise Him with strings and organ,’ calling our bodies an organ and its sinews strings, for front them the body derives its Coordinated movement, and when touched by the Spirit, gives forth human sounds; ‘praise Him on high-sounding cymbals,’ which mean the tongue of the mouth which with the movement of the lips, produces words. Then to all mankind He calls out, ‘Let every spirit praise the Lord,’ because He rules over every spirit He has made. In reality, man is an instrument arc for peace, but these other things, if anyone concerns himself overmuch with them, become instruments of conflict, for inflame the passions. The Etruscans, for example, use the trumpet for war; the Arcadians, the horn; the Sicels, the flute; the Cretans, the lyre; the Lacedemonians, the pipe; the Thracians, the bugle; the Egyptians, the drum; and the Arabs, the cymbal. But as for us, we make use of one instrument alone: only the Word of peace by whom we a homage to God, no longer with ancient harp or trumpet or drum or flute which those trained for war employ.”
Eusebius: “Of old at the time those of the circumcision were worshipping with symbols and types it was not inappropriate to send up hymns to God with the psalterion and cithara and to do this on Sabbath days… We render our hymn with a living psalterion and a living cithara with spiritual songs. The unison voices of Christians would be more acceptable to God than any musical instrument. Accordingly in all the churches of God, united in soul and attitude, with one mind and in agreement of faith and piety we send up a unison melody in the words of the Psalms.”
May 7, 2008 at 6:08 am
Rick Taron
In response to Jamie, it may not be clear to you now concerning the meaning of the instruments in OT worship, but if you sat under John Calvin’s ministry you would not have a doubt about it.
Here is a lecture outlining the use of instruments in worship by going to Calvin’s sermons on the psalms.
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=38081739562
The lecture is by Dennis Prutow a minister in the RPCNA.
Acappella Singing in Worship, Part Two
May 7, 2008 at 8:35 am
pduggie
“Such musical instruments must be excluded from our wingless feasts, for they arc more suited for beasts and for the class of men that is least capable of reason than for men.”
Clement is WAAAY overreaching here, and undermining his argument.
May 7, 2008 at 8:37 am
pduggie
“Here there is no need for the cithara, or for stretched strings, or for the plectrum, or for art, or for any instrument; but, if you like, you may yourself become a cithara, mortifying the members of the flesh and making a full harmony of mind and body.”
Sounds like “touch not, handle not”, which is will worship.
May 7, 2008 at 8:42 am
pduggie
of course, that Clement quote ALSO reads like serious allegorization. I wonder why we want *that* hermeneutics either.
May 7, 2008 at 8:45 am
pduggie
“I don’t repeat the Creed during the service. ”
So if you’re in a church that does, you stand there is silent protest?
May 7, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Zrim
“I don’t repeat the Creed during the service. ”
“So if you’re in a church that does, you stand there is silent protest?”
When does *abstention*, negatively speaking, become as disruptive as those who *practice*, positively speaking, what is fit in their own eyes? If the argument is one of conscience, is one out of line to kneel because he thinks it fitting when everyone else is standing, raise hands when everyone esle has them down? How does abstention not violate “all things done in a good and decent order”?
If one abstains from using his mouth to repeat “uninspired texts,” may one abstain from using his ears to listen to “uninspired texts” (i.e. the sermon)?
May 7, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Austin Britton
Dr. Clark-
Thanks for the help.
To clarify, I am confused about the “tunes” not being a style, I do understand the point about acapella not being a style. But someone writes the tunes, we don’t have notes in the Bible, whoever writes them is bound to a certain style and preference. What would different cultures make of our western baroque tunes, most likely they would find them out-of-place and dull (especially in the east).
So my question, You mention that the early church sang psalms to familiar tunes, does this mean they adopted “common” tunes from the culture and placed the canonical words in them?
May 8, 2008 at 7:01 am
R. Scott Clark
Hi Austin,
I think/assume that the apostolic church used appropriate tunes at hand. The early sub- and post-apostolic church was certainly aware that the music they used in worship sent signals about their intentions. The deliberately refrained from some types of music and from all instruments because of pagan associations.
I agree that we don’t have notes in the Bible. There’s no question whether tunes evolve. I’m not arguing, as some do, for only the Genevan tunes or anything like that. I’ve argued here that we need appropriate contemporary tunes for the psalter for congregational singing.
My point about style and preference is that the choice between obeying the law of God (second commandment; the source of the RPW) cannot be reduced to matters of style and preference. I realize that African-American congregations obeying the RPW may look different from Anglo congregations obeying the RPW. That’s fine. That’s a negotiation we all have to make in our settings. What is not negotiable is the distinction between elements and circumstances and the principle that that we do only what is commanded, that we worship God in the way he has commanded and in no other way.
I understand that not everyone– probably not many– folk will follow me on my journey back to the historic understanding of the RPW. I don’t claim to have it all figured out. There aren’t many models around to follow, quite frankly. I’m still learning and reading, but it’s time to start. Most of our churches are heading in the wrong direction. They’re aping pentecostalism or Anglicanism or even, in some cases, Romanism. Better to ape Geneva and get some things wrong than not to try.
May 8, 2008 at 7:05 am
Austin Britton
Thanks Dr. Clark! Well said and well taken.
May 8, 2008 at 7:06 am
R. Scott Clark
PD,
You’ve missed the distinction I’ve made between offices. The office of the laity is to hear the Word of God preached and to repeat God’s Word to him. It is the office of the minister to speak the Word of God.
As to disruption, that’s a matter of “decently and in order.” No consistory can require anyone to violate the law of God. At the same time no one has the right to disrupt a service, even one that is observing the RPW imperfectly. So far it hasn’t been a problem.
If I’m in a setting or situation when the RPW is not being observed, I sing when I may and participate whenever possible. I’m there to worship the living God not to make statements. If I can find a psalm or other portion of God’s Word set to the same meter, I sing along quietly — it’s probably less disruptive than someone singing a part loudly.
May 8, 2008 at 7:08 am
R. Scott Clark
RE: Clement. Yes, I’m just wrapping up a series in the adult class at OURC on the apostolic fathers. There’s a lot in Clement that we wouldn’t want to follow, but he and several other sources do witness to early Christian worship practice.
May 8, 2008 at 10:36 am
J.R. Polk
Dr. Clark,
Have you recorded those classes on the Fathers?
May 8, 2008 at 11:05 am
R. Scott Clark
Hi J.R.,
No, sorry.
May 12, 2008 at 8:08 am
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